Linaro-open-discussions April 2022

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Re: Linaro-open-discussions Digest, Vol 19, Issue 1

by Joyce Qi

Hi Jonathon，Lorenzo， Do we have some topic to discuss for the Linaro-open-disscussions next week? Thanks:) Joyce > 在 2022年4月14日，上午8:00，linaro-open-discussions-request@op-lists.linaro.org 写道： > > Send Linaro-open-discussions mailing list submissions to > linaro-open-discussions(a)op-lists.linaro.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via email, send a message with subject or > body 'help' to > linaro-open-discussions-request(a)op-lists.linaro.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > linaro-open-discussions-owner(a)op-lists.linaro.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Linaro-open-discussions digest..." > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: LOD Call notes: 22 March 2022 - vCPU Hotplug Update > (Jonathan Cameron) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2022 19:17:32 +0100 > From: Jonathan Cameron <Jonathan.Cameron(a)Huawei.com> > Subject: [Linaro-open-discussions] Re: LOD Call notes: 22 March 2022 - > vCPU Hotplug Update > To: Ilkka Koskinen <ilkka(a)os.amperecomputing.com> > Cc: linaro-open-discussions(a)op-lists.linaro.org > Message-ID: <20220413191732.00000e4e(a)Huawei.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > On Thu, 31 Mar 2022 11:47:26 -0700 (PDT) > Ilkka Koskinen <ilkka(a)os.amperecomputing.com> wrote: > >> Hi everyone, >> >> On Tue, 22 Mar 2022, Jonathan Cameron via Linaro-open-discussions wrote: >>> Hi All, >>> >>> A quick set of notes on the discussion on vCPU hotplug. >>> >>> Great to have Ed join the discussion. If we are going to >>> have further calls on this topic we may want to move the time to be >>> more friendly for the US. >>> >>> Current status >>> * ACPI spec change via code first route approved. >>> * Kernel patches being reworked / rebased by ARM. Expected to be sent >>> out in 5.19 cycle. >>> * QEMU patches being updated by Huawei. Will do at least some light testing >>> and then push out a public git tree so that others can test - will aim >>> to do this so it aligns with kernel code availability. >>> * Ed (Ampere) gave an update to say they are interested in pushing this >>> forwards ASAP and have customer / OS vendor engagement which will be >>> very useful in moving towards a complete solution, particularly ensuring >>> good test coverage etc. >>> >>> Noted that current QEMU patches may not cover all corner cases, for example >>> live migration of VMs that have vCPUs hotplugged. Might 'just work' >>> but we haven't tested it yet so probably not. >>> >>> Given we didn't really add anything on DOE / SPDM over previous calls, >>> I don't plan to send out anything on that topic this time. >>> >>> Thanks to Joyce for hosting the call. If I noted down anything wrong, >>> or incomplete let the list know. >>> >>> Jonathan >>> -- >>> Linaro-open-discussions mailing list -- linaro-open-discussions(a)op-lists.linaro.org >>> https://collaborate.linaro.org/display/LOD/Linaro+Open+Discussions+Home >> >> Thanks for the great meeting and the update! As Ed mentioned (and you >> wrote above), we're interested in joining the vCPU Hotplug development. > > Hi Ilkka > > Great to have you on board for this. > > Status wise, on QEMU side we have the new interface up and running > (it was a whole 2 lines of code once we'd dealt with some rebasing related issues). > > Rather more changes were needed to make it work sensibly on top of Gavin Shan's > QEMU topology configuration patch set. > https://lore.kernel.org/qemu-devel/20220403145953.10522-1-gshan@redhat.com/ > The code going through some light internal review before we put it up somewhere > public. Note it's definitely not production quality code but it is somewhere > to start from. Given Easter related vacations I doubt we'll get enough > eyes on it until next week. > > We were thrown briefly by the fact there is a recently added > apcica/actbl2.h entry for MADT_ONLINE_CAPABLE but it's a different bit. > Seems x86 folk wanted something similar last year. We'll have to do something > ugly in ACPICA to mangle the name for the new bit to avoid that collision. > Lorenzo, I'm assuming the ACPCIA one line patch to add that define is > something the ARM team will deal with? > > There are some known limitations though that we'll need to sort out before > upstreaming the QEMU support. One of which is SVE currently breaks things. > Plenty of time though as kernel needs to be upstream first anyway. > > Testing wise we are using QEMU on top of QEMU so we can poke corners of the > architecture don't have hardware for (e.g. SVE :). Even on a rubbish x86 > desktop it's not that slow :) > > Lorenzo, any update on kernel side of things or expected time scale for > more information? > > Obviously we have some hacked patches based on Salil's original proposal > that sanity check the QEMU side of things but I suspect the final version > will look rather different :) > > One question on the spec change for Lorenzo. It's not entirely clear > but I think we should not be using _MAT when 'hotplugging' the vCPUs? > For now the QEMU code provides the relevant entries anyway but > it would be nice to drop that if not necessary (it's not a huge > amount of code or complexity though so not a big thing either way). > > Thanks and an early happy Easter to those celebrating on Sunday. > > Jonathan > >> >> Br, Ilkka > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > Linaro-open-discussions mailing list -- linaro-open-discussions(a)op-lists.linaro.org > To unsubscribe send an email to linaro-open-discussions-leave(a)op-lists.linaro.org > > > ------------------------------ > > End of Linaro-open-discussions Digest, Vol 19, Issue 1 > ******************************************************

1 year, 9 months

Linaro OP-TEE Contribution (LOC) monthly meeting April 2022

by Ruchika Gupta

Hi, OP-TEE Contributions (LOC) monthly meeting is planned for Thursday April 28 @17.00 (UTC + 2). We have following on the agenda - Fault Mitigation patterns in OP-TEE - Jens Wiklander If you have any more topics you'd like to discuss, please let us know and we can schedule them. Meeting details: --------------- Date/time: April 28(a)17.00 (UTC + 2) https://everytimezone.com/s/700b9d66 Connection details: https://www.trustedfirmware.org/meetings/ Meeting notes: http://bit.ly/loc-notes Regards, Ruchika on behalf of the Linaro OP-TEE team

1 year, 12 months

LOD call notes 26 April.

by Jonathan Cameron

Hi, This is a combination of yangyicong and my notes. If we missed anything please point it out. RMR: - (Shameer) Request to look at Patch 4 as some changes from earlier versions. Warning fix for next version. - Lorenzo will check with Robin. - Need to ask Joerg to pull the series. vCPU HP. - https://gitlab.com/jic23/qemu/-/commits/vcpu-poc-1 - Kernel Patches - hopefully posted soon. Not Lorenzo as not available for a few months. - _MAT needed or not. SPDM - Random discussion of the difficulty of debugging the rather complex exchanges. Nothing worth noting. Scheduler: Yangyicong's slides provide a good summary of the question. - Observed that any topology based estimate is going to be challenging! - Vincent - set migration cost per sched domain level? - Dietmar - workloads weren't clear in original thread. Question of taskhot or new Idle Balance as relevant to workload. Tighter description of what is going on in the benchmarks needed. - Vincent - Uarch + cache etc relevant. - Hesham - potentially user perf counters to get some more info. Takeways 1. Need to figure out the underlying reason of the performance variation of certain benchmark: If it's because of task hotness or newidle_balance(), etc. 2. Effect may related to the micro-arch, cache, and task's states. Also can be tuned according to the cpu numbers and scheduler domain levels. 3. Can be get from some firmware reports, to avoid the long time measurement in booting. 4. May be possible to calibrate during the boot time, but narrow the scope of measured CPUs and test time. This won't take long, but is susceptible to noise from other sources. 5. Hardware counters or profilings help understand what is going on, but unlikely to be consistently available for use in the loop. 6. Maybe make migration cost per sched domain on implementation. Thanks, Jonathan

1 year, 12 months

LOD Call notes: 22 March 2022 - vCPU Hotplug Update

by Jonathan Cameron

Hi All, A quick set of notes on the discussion on vCPU hotplug. Great to have Ed join the discussion. If we are going to have further calls on this topic we may want to move the time to be more friendly for the US. Current status * ACPI spec change via code first route approved. * Kernel patches being reworked / rebased by ARM. Expected to be sent out in 5.19 cycle. * QEMU patches being updated by Huawei. Will do at least some light testing and then push out a public git tree so that others can test - will aim to do this so it aligns with kernel code availability. * Ed (Ampere) gave an update to say they are interested in pushing this forwards ASAP and have customer / OS vendor engagement which will be very useful in moving towards a complete solution, particularly ensuring good test coverage etc. Noted that current QEMU patches may not cover all corner cases, for example live migration of VMs that have vCPUs hotplugged. Might 'just work' but we haven't tested it yet so probably not. Given we didn't really add anything on DOE / SPDM over previous calls, I don't plan to send out anything on that topic this time. Thanks to Joyce for hosting the call. If I noted down anything wrong, or incomplete let the list know. Jonathan

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